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Thursday, October 02, 2008

The Rumble in St. Louis

Well here it is. The VP debate at Washington University in St. Louis, MO. Like the last presidential debate, I'll be liveblogging in the comments, feel free to join with comments, or your own observations. Or of course, I can just do this alone too. Sure, I don't care. I do lots of good things alone. Really. Honest. I don't need you guys anyway.....

Anyway, back to the debate. I was remarking to the Saint earlier in the evening, that if Palin does well tonight, the talking point from the media and the Democrats (is there a difference? -ed) will be that she was "well-coached." But after reading this in the Corner, I see that the preemptive strike is already out there, namely "earpieces." Honestly, could it get any weirder?

Did Reuters Really Ask the Debate Commission Whether They're Checking the Ear Canals of the VP Candidates Prior to the Debate Tonight? [Rich Lowry]

Crazy. Carl Cameron just mentioned it on Fox.

So now, the talking point will be that she was well-coached via an electronic earpiece.


Your Co-Conspirator,
ARC: Brian

Comments (59)
Brian said...

Expectations for tonight:

It's a must win for Palin. The good news is that pretty much any performance that isn't like the Couric interview will knock it out of the park. Her expectations are that low.

St Wendeler said...

Ok, Saint checking in here...

Brian said...

odds for Ifill talking about her conflict of interest? 10%

Brian said...

Palin is miked? We got the initial conversation: "can i call you Joe"

St Wendeler said...

was going to say 1000 to 1....

and would've been right.

St Wendeler said...

Biden looks TERRIBLE in High-Def.

Question for the evening... can Biden provide any answer within 90 seconds?

St Wendeler said...

Connecting with soccer moms.. good.

Brian said...

over under the word "maverick"?

Um.. 1000

St Wendeler said...

Sarah had an excellent response on the financial crisis... when she mentioned living within our means, her numbers shot up to 100% with the CNN-HD focus group.

St Wendeler said...

when biden's talking about how most ppl won't get hit with taxes, he's flatlining... apparently, people don't believe him. Perhaps they think he's plagiarism.

St Wendeler said...

plagiarising.

Brian said...

Grrr.. my vista laptop locked up the wireless for some reason.. Back now

St Wendeler said...

he's still talking.... OMFG

St Wendeler said...

awesome... she's killing him

Brian said...

Biden supported the bankruptcy bill too.. Is Ifill going to point that out? his son is a lobbyist after all...

St Wendeler said...

energy independence started slow... she peaked at the end.

Brian said...

Palin's answers start slow, rambling.. then she starts to move in a more coherent fashion.

St Wendeler said...

Over/Under - what minute does Biden make a gaffe?

St Wendeler said...

Clean coal... I can't believe he brought that up.

Brian said...

Time for foreign policy... For the first half, Palin held her own, which might be all she has to do given the driven low expectations.

Brian said...

I loved the "white flag of surrender" line.. but the CNN OH uncomitted voters HATED it...


I guess if your uncomitted your against the war...

Brian said...

Gwen and Obama both say "Pahk-ee-stan"

St Wendeler said...

paige

St Wendeler said...

excellent response

Brian said...

Ahhh Change....

Brian said...

What should be the trigger for when nuclear weapons? Is that question?

It sounds like the "if your wife was raped question"

St Wendeler said...

On the CNN Punch Count, Borger, Begala, and Rosen all think Obama/Biden are the bees knees...

Overall, I think this has been pretty even. Biden hasn't made any major gaffes... Palin has knocked some out of the park.

St Wendeler said...

somehow, Begala doesn't think Biden has made one single mistake.

Brian said...

What would you do if the your running mate died? These are questions?

Brian said...

What would they expect an answer to that question be? I'd run int the corner and suck my thumb?

Brian said...

Saint, the CNN "scorecard" is just a joke. I mean Begala has a book painting McCain as Bush's third term. Don't you think he has a financial interest in this race?

St Wendeler said...

dRINK!!!! Yet another joe sixpack reference about home depot

Brian said...

There's that joe sixpack theme again...

Biden goes to Home Depot?

LOL Say it so, Joe.... :-) The uncomitted's in OH hated it, but I know Republicans across the country just loved it.

Brian said...

Heeheehee... "John McCain has tapped me..."

Oh sweetie he wishes he "tapped" you. We all do...

Brian said...

Obama wanted someone he could rely on to help him govern.. and he didn't choose Hillary? :-)

St Wendeler said...

powers of the vice president question is stupid.

How does that matter to any voter?

Brian said...

That question about "the split" of authority between executive and legislative was a total biased question.

That was a tee-up for Biden to talk about Cheney (and how he eats puppies for breakfast... cute puppies)

Monterey John said...

Any room for a Left Coaster?

Brian said...

Welcome! John! The debate on tape delay for you folks out on the west coast? ;)

St Wendeler said...

What's your real achilles heal?

WTF kind of question is that?!?!

I mean, what sane person or politician would answer that question?

Monterey John said...

Nah, the old man fell asleep. Biden does that to me.

Brian said...

Uh-oh's Biden's into Senatorial mode. I voted for this and that and this and that...

Monterey John said...

At least she hasn't shor herself in the foot, but I sure am hearing the talking points. nonetheless, she is doing OK.

St Wendeler said...

Biden does that to alot of people.

Monterey John said...

"I love him," yeh, right

Monterey John said...

Kitchen frickin' table, aaaarrrrrrgh?

St Wendeler said...

DRINK!!!!!!!

Monterey John said...

He's on my court now, The SCOTUS, and he is dead wrong about ideology.

St Wendeler said...

Are all of the questtions going to Biden first?/?

Monterey John said...

Let's talk about the Rams. No, wait. How about them Birds? Never mind. Back to Biden.

Brian said...

walk the walk, not just talk the talk...

St Wendeler said...

she's knockinng this last one out of the park.

St Wendeler said...

on how you change the tone in DC

St Wendeler said...

how about the Tigers, John???

Brian said...

Nice commment. LIkes to answer the tough questions without the filter of the media...

Monterey John said...

Good closing by Palin. That's the woman we liked at the convention.

Monterey John said...

Biden -Bush, Bush, Bush, blah, blah blah

Tax breaks for Exxon, what a rut. how much did the stockholder make? 8%?

St Wendeler said...

Overall, I think it was slightly positive for Palin.

Biden didn't make a huge gaffe, didn't say some sexist remark, or attack the woman.

Palin showed she's competent and did much better than the Couric interview.

Monterey John said...

Truthfully, I watched this thing through my fingers and am really relieved it went as well as it did.