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Friday, August 29, 2008

Why Palin???

The only drawback to the Palin selection is that it (to some degree) undercuts the inexperienced argument. While Palin certainly is more qualified than Obama, a superficial anlaysis of the age, time in government, etc won't help. And we know the MSM doesn't do anything deeper than the superficial.

One other drawback is that Alaska is already in the McCain camp, so it doesn't immediately flip a single state in McCain's favor.

However, here are a couple of points that will help McCain.

1) Palin favors drilling in ANWR and with gas prices as they are, this is a killer issue for the GOP. I can just imagine the exchange during the Vice President debates:

Biden: We can't drill in ANWR because of the environmental impact and because it won't have any impact on the price of gasoline until 10 years from now!

Palin: Senator Biden, with all due respect, the mere mentioning of the possibility of drilling offshore earlier this summer caused a $20/barrel drop in the price of oil. Using American energy resources instead of Saudi Arabian energy resources in the short term, while transitioning into a green-energy economy, sees like the best option.

And Senator, while you're commuting back & forth from DC to Delaware, I live in the state of Alaska. And if you think that you're more concerned about the environment of Alaska than someone who lives in Alaska, I think you've spent too many years in DC.

Senator - While you've "summered" in The Hamptons, I've actually vacationed with my family in ANWR.

Other benefits?
She's youthful.

She's not from D.C.

She's intelligent.

She has a maverick streak against the GOP pork-barrellers in Alaska.

All of this lines up with McCain's strengths.... Now, it's just a matter of communicating it to the voters.

The people over at Draft Sarah Palin have a lot more details.

Check out this interview of Palin by Larry Kudlow on CNBC to see her in action.

Your Co-Conspirator,
ARC: St Wendeler

Comments (5)
Chase said...

Hookay, Palin is a desperate VP choice. Wow, I kinda can't believe McCain would go this far! Here's a run down comparing Obama and Palin (keep in mind we're comparing potential President with a Vice President).

Barack Obama:

Education:
*Graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School
Career:
*Worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney
*Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.
*Taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.

Non-Political Achievements:
*President of the Harvard Law Review

Political Achievements:
*"Lugar–Obama," which expanded the Nunn–Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons
*Coburn–Obama Transparency Act, which authorized the establishment of www.USAspending.gov
*Sponsored legislation requiring nuclear plant owners to notify state and local authorities of radioactive leaks
*President Bush signed into law the "Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act," marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor
*Co-sponsored the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act
*introduced S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections
*Held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs, Environment and Public Works, Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Commitees.
*Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs (As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama has made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa)
(Source: Wikipedia)

Sarah Palin:

Education:
*B.S. in Journalism from University of Idaho
Career:
*Sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations
*Commercial fisherman with her husband
*2 terms on the Wasilla City Council

Non Political Achievements:
*2nd place in Miss Alaska beauty pageant
*Miss Congeniality in Wasilla pageant

Political Achievements:
*President of the Alaska Conference of Mayors
*Won general election in November 2006, defeating former Governor Tony Knowles without party support
*First woman to be Alaska's governor, and the youngest governor in Alaskan history at 42 years of age upon taking office
*Ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans
*After federal funding for the Gravina Island Bridge project (that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending) was lost, Palin decided against filling the over $200 million gap with state money
*Challenged the state's Republican leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young
*Challenged Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings
*In 2007, Palin had an approval rating often above 90%. A poll published by Hays Research on July 28, 2008 showed Palin's approval rating at 80%. (Fine Print: Alaska population: 670,053 (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/02000.html) compared with Illinois: 12,831,970 (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/17000.html))
*Following through on campaign promises (i.e. selling a jet from a previous gubernatorial administration to cut state costs)
(Source: Wikipedia, Congress.org)

In conclusion:
If you think that Palin is more experienced than Obama who's running for President than you have some issues, especially with the evidence above. Remember, Palin hasn't even finished her 1st term as Governor! Obama has completed his first term as a Senator! Oh, and don't get me started on Biden because he the most experienced and level headed candidate of all of them! Look Biden up on Congress.org! Jeez, I feel sorry for Palin against Biden in the upcoming debate...Hope you've learned something!

St Wendeler said...

Obama has not finished his 1st term in the US Senate. He's only 4 years in - and he's spent the last 2 years running for President.

Community Organizer vs elected mayor - I'll take the mayor.

Legislative Accomplishments for Obama - They're less substantial than you suggest and each and every one has been mentioned multiple times by each speaker at the DNC in an attempt to make them sound more substantial.

Population of Alaska ~ 670k
Population of Delaware ~ 850k

Population of Arizona - 6.3M
Population of Illinois (not including dead voters) - 12.8M

Your point is? I don't recall Obama being the governor of Arizona...

As the chief executive in the state of Alaska, Palin has proven to be quite the maverick reformer, taking on special interests from both parties. Meanwhile, Senator Biden is the human embodiment of special interests, what with his son's successful career as a lobbyist for companies before Biden's committees. That seems like more of the good ol' boy style of politics that Palin took on in Alaska.

Which is real change from politics as usual?

And yes, the debates will be interesting. But, I wouldn't count Palin out before the stage has even been set up.

Oh.. and by the way, Palin's not the inexperienced person running for President - that's Obama.

Chase said...

Thank you for replying. I'm glad we can have a civil debate about our differences. I am sorry about confusing Obama's IL Senate years with his U.S. Senate Years (See http://www.congress.org/bio/id/3181). You're right, he has only 4 years of being in the U.S. Senate under his belt. I'm a little lost when you mentioned Arizona? How does Arizona play into this? I never said Obama was the governor of Arizona! You're also right that Biden's son, Hunter, is a lobbyist. He represents 5 universities and 2 biotech firms. However, he in 2006, severed ties with a lobbying-only subsidiary of his law firm called The National Group. That was done to comply with upcoming ethics rules requiring members of Congress to certify that their relatives do not immediately benefit from spending or tax provisions they recommend (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-24-Biden-son_N.htm?csp=34). He will also be deployed in Iraq this year, he's in the National Guard.
About the "hush-hush" of Obama's accomplishments has "highlighted" in your link, "less substantial." I like to consider the source. I realize that you base all your sources from Karl Rove thus the title of your blog. I hope you know that Karl Rove resigned in infamy after the countless underhanded tactics to undermine truth. Yes, Valerie Plume, you know what I mean. (see http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Karl_Rove). Yeah, I would totally *rolls eyes* would believe every word, story, and "report" Rove publishes. Jeez, have you even read a bio of the man you seemingly pay homage too on your blog or is this whole blog one big sarcastic joke?
Palin is a very articulate and intelligent woman. I will not discount her for what she is. Yet her values and, yes, experience/judgment is untested at a national level. 15 years in small town politics (Wasilla Council) are many years dealing with small town stuff. I'm not saying it's not good experience but I'm emphasizing that there is a difference between that and 8 years of state level senate (Obama). Both are equally short on their experience in their highest government position (Again, Palin=Governor, Obama=U.S. Senate, local vs. national). Seriously, you want a small town politician to be the VP or even President of the U.S., the most powerful nation in the world?? I applaud her ethics in ousting corruption. Can she take out corruption out of the White House and high level politics? The Bush Administration has been one of the most corrupt administrations in U.S. history! Oh, remember that "promise" to promote renewable energy with McCain? McCain in reality doesn't support much of the alternative energy available (see http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/wind_power_puffery.html). With Palin's husband working for BP and the revenue Alaska gets from oil, I think Palin will reconsider her "progressive energy policies" and break her first but not last campaign promise. Capitol Hill politics is a whole different environment than Wasilla or even Juneau politics. In the experience game, Obama wins by a little, he's knows what it takes to pass legislation at a national level. He's also been around and been on diplomatic missions outside the U.S. Please correct me if I'm wrong, yet I think Palin has only "dealt" with Russia from time to time because Russia because AK and Russia share the Bering Sea? Palin claims she's a fast learner. Well, she's going to have to learn mighty quick and well to catch up to Obama and be a qualified VP or (God forbid) President in this day and age. I know you might not like to hear this, but the world isn't isolated anymore. Every country is depends on another for some reason or another. I rather have a an experienced and level headed Obama or Bidens' finger over the nuclear launch button than the hot headed "maverick" McCain or Palin. It really comes down to that. Being a maverick is one thing but a wise maverick is another. They are missing the wisdom (Palin) and patience (McCain) needed for an honest and productive White House.

P.S. Isn't it interesting that you will probably never look at the links I provided you or admit your wrong on some of the points I made above? It's frustrating and rewarding at the same time when I reply to blogs like yours. Anyway, thanks for posting! ;)

Anonymous said...

Here's a theory that part of the reason for Palin pick is that her son, who is being deployed to Iraq this month, makes for a perfect package to expand the war...it's a compelling argument, one that oddly is missing from most blog discussions. Why? Isn't it a notable deal that the VP pick has a son in the active military? Can you imagine the McCain-Palin refrain on behalf of expanded war? Read more here:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=17986969

St Wendeler said...

Ummm, Anon... McCain himself has a son in active duty in Iraq, so that line isn't a possible argument.

Chase - Why do you assume I don't view the links? Why do you assume that I have the opinions I have simply because I'm some uninformed idiot?

The condescension you display is troubling and it's sad that you find some sort of satisfaction from thinking those with different opinions are less intelligent than you.

Here at ARC, we often have lefty bloggers & commenters and enjoy a principled debate. Unfortunately, there are few on the Left who are willing to attempt intelligent arguments and they too often resort to name calling.

At the end of the day, the fact that we have to do a comparison about Palin vs. Obama's experiences shows that they are both likely less experienced in terms of executive experience than either of us would like. Unfortunately, Obama is at the top of the ticket, while Palin is the VP. Obama admitted in his early days in the US Senate that he thought before interviewing for a new job, he'd have to learn his current job as Senator, and that he wouldn't be comfortable running for President so soon after arriving in the Senate. Unfortunately, that's exactly what he did.

Even Joe Biden said that the Presidency isn't something that lends itself to on-the-job training. (BTW, that's what the VP position is for.)

In his acceptance speech, Obama asked us to take a chance on him despite his lack of experience. He had to make that request and you seem willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for Presidency, but not Sarah Palin as the VP.


BTW, why don't you use HTML tags for links when commentins???

instead of brackets, use open/close carats as in the following:

[a href="http://www.website.com" target="x"]Read this article, you right wing crazy - this is the text that becomes a link[/a], whereas this text is not.