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Thursday, June 28, 2007

First the Good News - Amnesty is Dead

I really thought the Senate was going to pass this particular piece of sausage, the immigration bill. I am relieved they did not. The reasons for that relief are numerous, but the main one is the death of amnesty.

Twelve million illegal aliens were about to become legal within 24 hours of applying for a visa after a background check that had to be completed in one business day of the application being made.

Frickin' preposterous. State can not get passports out in months. How the heck did they expect to do a background check in one business day?

That is just one glaring point.

The major point for me was the deliberate fogging of the difference between legalization and citizenship. The path to citizenship was indeed rather burdensome, as it should be for anyone who broke the law. But the path to legalization was instantaneous. None of the proponents of this legislation dealt adequately with this issue, and I believe that was deliberate.

The newly legal had to do NOTHING to stay here.

And reason prevailed, and all hail an enraged citizenship for standing up and backing down the Senate.

Your Co-Conspirator,
ARC: MontereyJohn

Comments (4)
St Wendeler said...

State can not get passports out in months. How the heck did they expect to do a background check in one business day?

This is true... but Visa Express for Saudi nationals was a great success and could be replicated for our compadre's to the South.

I too am pleased that this bill was defeated.


Ultimately, something will have to be done with the illegal immigrants that are currently here. Yes, a border fence needs to be erected and enforced. But, then what? Do you deport the 12 million? Or do you just ignore them and hope the problem goes away?

I personally think the solution is border enforcement, establishment of English as the official language (it's the language of business after-all, at least until the Chinese overwhelm us), and then a process of formalizing the resident status of those here illegally. IE, the key is to make those here illegally come into the light of day and an onerous penalty will give them no incentive to do so.

In addition, strict penalties on employers who hire illegals and pay sub-standard wages should also be implemented - as long as the government implements a difficult to forge ID system. Once employers have to choose between paying an unskilled worker from Mexico (who doesn't know the language) and a semi-skilled worker the same base salary, you know which option the employer will select.

This is not an easy problem to solve, but we cannot ignore it much longer. Fences and border enforcement are only one part of the solution. Because, as one blogger put it, "the illegals are already here, they've framed your house." Some policy has to be established to deal with that fact.

Monterey John said...

First you stop the bleeding. I am not willing to even consider what to do with those who are here until that is done. Speaking from here in California, nothing is takes priority. It is a triage issue.

Of course we must do something with the 12 million who are here, but I am not willing to tie the two issues together in the name of "comprehensiveness" or "bi-partisanship."

Turn of the current to the electro-magnet of employment that is drawing people here and secure, not close, the borders.

Once that is done, we can deal with the folks who already are here.

Addendum: free trade al la NAFTA is a partial but important part of the solution. The more decent jobs there are south of the border, the fewer folks there will be who feel compelled to flee north.

These economic refugees are not bad people. Many of them have guts in abundence and the will to do something about their empoverished situation. They deserve better than they are getting at home.

St Wendeler said...

John - I feel like you.... it's difficult to trust the government to secure the border and efficiently process Z visas given the 30 year history of illegal immigration into this country.

First, secure.

Second, implement an immigration (and assimilation) policy which recognizes the economic realities on the ground.

Monterey John said...